8/17/15, "Trump Shakes Up the Inside-the-Beltway Establishment with His Immigration Plan," Rush Limbaugh transcript
"RUSH: Let's start with Trump for a minute. I want to try to mix some of this in. There's a Fox News poll out and Trump is at 25%. Now, a lot of
Drive-Bys and a lot of political analysts have been waiting for this
particular poll or one like it. Since the first debate, they have been
invested in the fact that that first debate actually was a death knell
for Trump. All of the immediate polling after that first debate was
online polling or telephone polling, and a lot of the Drive-Bys didn't trust it. They wanted to wait for an actual poll by a news network, and Fox is out, and Trump is up at 25%.
Ben Carson, a skyrocketing jump at 12%. Do you remember the day after the debate I told you who the left said won that debate?...The left
thought John Kasich won the debate....That was the postdebate consensus of scientists, political
scientists analyzing the Republican debate. Well, Kasich ends up at 4%
in the Fox poll, and he's tied there with Rubio.
Now, Rubio and Kasich were thought by postdebate analysts to have
done really well, and accordingly, would really do well and maybe even
skyrocket in polls. In the Fox News poll they have Christie at 3%, Rand
Paul at 3%. Carly Fiorina went up enough from 2% to 5% to get herself
in the next debate. Scott Walker dropped three. Huckabee dropped three.
Jeb Bush dropped three....Bush is at nine, Huckabee, Walker at six, Ted Cruz up four to 10%....
And, by the way, these results "closely mirror all of the telephone
polling and online polling that the consensus of political scientists
rejected while they were waiting for this poll." And there's sadness
out there. I mean, they really were thinking Trump was gonna bomb....Trump hasn't faded. He's not shown any signs up of fading yet.
He goes on Meet the Press yesterday and, have to tell you, the
establishment is shocked, angry, saddened. He came off as
presidential. He had a serious immigration plan. And the key to
Trump's immigration plan is that it almost dovetails exactly with public
opinion on immigration. You know, it's kind of stunning. We got 16
Republican candidates now, and there's only one of them-only one-with a unique view or different view on immigration. It's Trump.
obvious that that issue is the foundational issue for Trump, and I
think for Trump to blow this he would have to change immigration. He'd
have to backtrack, which he's not gonna do. But I'm just saying, all the
other stuff... You know, "Is he conservative/is he liberal?" I still
don't think that people in what we call the establishment (some call it
the ruling class) inside-the-Beltway get it.
Both parties, conservative-liberal, Republican-Democrat, I don't
think they have the slightest idea what the vast majority of people in
this country think about immigration and what's happening to the
country, and they don't want any part of it. And of course the
establishment is seen as wanting to ramrod their view of immigration
down everybody's throat. Trump's the only guy standing up against it,
and every Republican that has been elected since 2010 has been elected
in part to stop it.
You know, if just one of these Republican candidates-just one of
them-had come out forcefully for America on this immigration
business, Trump wouldn't even exist as a candidate. Well, he might
exist, but he wouldn't have such a free road in this one issue.
really...when you observe it
-- it's amazing. Sixteen people are running for the presidency, and 15
of them are perceived...to have essentially the same policy on immigration. One of
them is entirely different from the other 15, and he's the one who's
leading. Now, don't you think people inside the Beltway should be able
to look at this and put two and two together and figure out what is
causing this? They can chalk it up to celebrity, they can chalk it up
to pop culture, they can chalk it up to circus.
But it's not. It is due to substance and it is due to immigration,
and with Trump releasing this comprehensive immigration plan
yesterday...You know, all these questions of who's a real conservative
have been obviated here. Even that question,"Who is that a real
conservative?" is up for grabs now. I've got a couple pieces in the
Stack of Stuff here today....They're conservatives, conservative media, and they
just excoriate the inside-the-Beltway so-called conservative
One of them really takes after George Will, 'cause I guess George
Will really took after Trump last Thursday in a piece. And Arthur
Brooks. We'll have the sound bite on this. Arthur Brooks, American
Enterprise Institute, was on Fox News Sunday yesterday. Now, the
American Enterprise Institute has long been thought of as a conservative
think tank. Cato is Libertarian. Brookings is to the left. Heritage
is conservative. AEI is also thought to be conservative.
Brooks yesterday is talking about (are you ready for this?) the
low-information voters supporting Trump. I saw that, and I really
stopped on a dime and did a double-take. Look at who they think
low-information voters are inside the Beltway! You know, when we talk
about "low-information voters" here, what do we mean?...We mean mind-numbed Democrat voters. Mind-numbed, pop culture voters
who are brain-dead who are not curious.
Who don't think, who simply absorb whatever they see presented to
them by various mainstream media sources and believe it....
The point is...look who the inside-the-Beltway people think the LIVs are. You people!
According to Arthur Brooks, you who support Trump are the mind-numbed,
uneducated, uninformed low-information voters, and they are confident
that you're gonna see the light at some point. That's what I meant
about this been a barnburner weekend. This is a blow-the-top-off-of-it
Remember Peter Jennings? After
the 1994 election in which Republicans won the House for the first time
in 40 years, Peter Jennings did a radio commentary and said that the
voters had a childlike "temper tantrum." Remember that? That's how we
explained the Republicans....
It wasn't due to substance....It wasn't due to anything
that really mattered. It was just: No, ah, the kids "had a temper
tantrum." That's exactly how these guys sounded on Fox News Sunday
yesterday talking about the people that support Trump. You're having a
They're in an utter state of denial here. Now, there
are pieces being written by conservative intellectuals explaining who
the real conservatives are and who the real conservatives aren't and
what makes a real conservative and what constitutes a fake
And if you support Trump, you are a fake conservative, and you are
dangerous, and somehow you're gonna have to be rescued and brought back
into the fold here. But you are under the spell of some Svengali (i.e.,
RUSH: Okay, so Trump's on Meet the Press yesterday, and scared
everybody. Looked presidential. Sounded serious. Had a multipoint
immigration plan. It was serious. It was intelligent. And the
inside-the-Beltway establishment is beside itself. Trump's immigration
proposal is not just comprehensive. More importantly, what Trump's
immigration proposal does...(laughing) It just totally repudiates the
"bipartisan approach" that we're getting from both parties inside the
Beltway that has been the desire of both parties inside the Beltway for
everybody knows that it is an immigration plan that is going to result
in millions more registered Democrats. Common-sense people,
common-sense citizens have never understood it. Policy-wise, it hasn't
made any sense for the Republican Party to support amnesty and make a
policy that's the mirror of what the Democrats want. Policy-wise it
makes no sense, party-wise it makes no sense. It only makes sense when
you learn that it is what big-money donors want.
And that's when we learn who it is that's really running the
Republican Party (and the Democrat Party party too): The money people. Now, we talked about this Friday. That's not new, really. Money's
always been a determining and deciding factor. What's new is that the
parties are no longer making even any pretense of satisfying public
opinion, being on the same page as public opinion. It is governance
against the will of the people on the premise that the people are too
stupid to know the right thing to do here. So now you, who don't
support amnesty, are considered low-information voters right along with
the people we consider on the left as low-information voters.
RUSH: Let me briefly summarize the Trump immigration proposal that
happened on Meet the Press yesterday. Do not doubt me on this. The
release of the Fox News poll and Trump's appearance yesterday has done
more to shake up the inside-the-Beltway establishment than anybody
assumed that they were already pretty shaken up, and they were, but now
they're starting to get to the point now where Trump could literally
genuinely win this thing. They're changing tunes from when's he gonna
drop out, when's he gonna step in it, to, "Uh-oh." And I think, you
know, I'll say it again, I don't think these people have any idea just
how angry, frightened, fearful, a pretty big majority of the people in
this country are, that we are losing the country, and we're losing it
because of immigration, couple other things, but immigration's the
I don't know how many times I have referenced this over the years,
and I'm by no means the only one. Look at California. If you want to
find the future of the Republican Party and the country, look at
California. There isn't a single Republican in statewide office. There
never will be in the future. It's not gonna happen.The Republican
Party practically doesn't exist statewide. The economy in California,
you talk about inequality, the haves and have-nots, it's no more
pronounced anywhere in the country than in California.
You don't have to go back that far where the Republican Party owned
it. Routinely elected governors, those governors became presidential
candidates. And I'll tell you when you can tie it to.
You can tie the
end of the Republican Party in California to 1986, and that was the
Simpson-Mazzoli amnesty immigration bill. We're talking back then 3.9
million illegal aliens granted amnesty. Since then it's been curtains
for the Republican Party, which means constant victory for the Democrat
They have shaped that state, and it's a mess. And it's a
harbinger of where we're going nationwide.
The people of this country do not want that and they're scared to
death of losing their country, and immigration is the top of the reasons
why they think it can happen. And they see both parties in cahoots to
make it happen, and they don't understand it. People that love America
do not understand this. I mean, even when you tell 'em, "Well,
big-money donors say this because they want X, Y, and Z," it still
doesn't make any sense. How does that trump patriotism? How does all
that matter more to these people, elected officials, than patriotism,
love of country, America, shining city on a hill and all that, why does
that not matter anymore?
People are a combination of angry, scared. And there isn't a single
candidate for president addressing the issue in a way that resonates
with the American people, particularly Republican primary voters, not
one, until Donald Trump comes along. And now Trump is illustrating his
support, illustrates for any who wish to pay honest attention, what is
thought of the whole concept of illegal immigration and amnesty and the
future of the country it represents. And people don't want it. They've
said so in every which way they can, time and time again, and they're
not being listened to.
the same time, Republican officials, Republican Party officials,
inside-the-Beltway officials tell us that we can't win the White House
anymore without getting additional votes besides just Republican votes.
We can't win anymore with only Republican votes. We're too small. We
need to branch out...We need to get
Democrats. We need to get independents.
Okay, fine, well, guess what, who's doing that? Who is expanding the
party beyond what it is normally thought to be? Trump, of all people. And yet they're lowering the hammer on the guy each and every day, when
it is Donald Trump who is executing what the Republican Party says they
need to win....
You know, I need to include Ted Cruz in the Trump group on
anti-amnesty and so forth. Cruz and Trump. The others might say they
belong there, too, but that's only after they've made adjustments in
their original support for an amnesty-like program. But Trump's
immigration plan, back to it, before I read it specifically from his
website. You know, he wants to build a wall and have Mexico pay for
it. He wants to deport all undocumented immigrants. They have to go.
Now, the inside-the-Beltway people, when they hear that, they cringe,
"Oh, my God, don't say that's what Republicans -- oh, God." People are
standing up and cheering. They don't want their country given away, for
crying out loud! And to pay people at the same time. He wants to do
away with, rescind Obama's executive amnesty program. He wants to
triple the number of Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents in
America. He wants to revert to the tariff system that existed prior to
the passage of NAFTA. And he would end the practice of granting US
citizenship to the children of illegal immigrants. Bye-bye anchor
And I'm telling you, that one has people standing up and cheering. He wants to make changes in the 14th Amendment so that that cannot
happen. We are cooking our own goose by granting this privilege, and he
wants to do away with it. He is in the majority of thinking, as
polled, the American people. He presented this immigration plan
yesterday on Meet the Press, and as I say, the Inside-the-Beltway crowd
was shocked. The media was shocked, A, that he had a plan. B, that he
has a campaign staff that's made up of professionals. D, that he's able
to present this in a way that looked presidential. And, E, that he was
on Meet the Press looking and sounding presidential.
None of this was supposed to happen. The experts all told us Trump would be gone by now, or on the way out, if not gone. "Immigration Reform That Will Make America Great Again
-- The three core principles of Trump's plan. When politicians talk
about 'immigration reform' they mean: amnesty, cheap labor and open
borders. The Schumer-Rubio immigration bill was nothing more than a
giveaway to the corporate patrons who run both parties.
immigration reform puts the needs of working people first -- not
wealthy globetrotting donors.
We are the only country in the world whose
immigration system puts the needs of other nations ahead of our own.
That must change. Here are the three core principles of real immigration
reform: 1. A nation without borders is not a nation. There must be a
wall across the southern border."
(imitating Trump) "And if we can't do it, then look at the Chinese.
Look at their wall. They got a Great Wall. They built it, how long is
that wall? If they can do it, we can do it. If they got the Great
Wall, we got the greatest wall. We can build a greater wall, we can do
anything we want. We can do it. Who says we can't do it?" People
stand up and cheer.
"2. A nation without laws is not a nation. Laws passed in accordance
with our Constitutional system of government must be enforced," or
they're worthless. "3. A nation that does not serve its own citizens is
not a nation. Any immigration plan must improve jobs, wages and security
for all Americans." And he goes through the point-by-point details,
reasons, analysis, and all that, and it was right on the money.
Byron York has a piece in the DC Examiner: "Are Trump's Immigration Views Out of the Mainstream?"
What York did, he went back and he looked at an -- oh, Jeff Sessions,
by the way, is one of the leading participants of in the preparation of
Trump's multipoint immigration plan. Sessions is great on this and has
been a lone voice in the Senate. Well, next to Cruz and Mike Lee. I
mean, I don't mean to leave these guys out because they have been front
But Byron York found a recent academic paper published by Stanford
Professor David Broockman and Berkeley PhD candidate Douglas Ahler an it
"suggests a majority of the public's views on immigration are closer to
Trump's than to the advocates of comprehensive immigration reform."
It's just another way of stating it, another way of writing it, but
it's another way of illustrating that Trump's not the oddball. Trump's
ideas are not fringe, are not outliers, they are mainstream. They
represent the views and the attitudes of the people who make this
RUSH: Now, folks, one thing here about the Byron York story. This is
really interesting. In a nutshell, Byron York says that this academic
study by the two guys -- one from Stanford, one a PhD candidate from
Berkeley. They offered seven positions. Position number one was being
open border. In a poll, a survey of thousands of Americans, they offered
them seven options, seven things to choose from and list them in order
of importance, the American people.
first option: Open borders. Let everybody in. Number seven was the
most extreme: Build a wall and deport everybody. Okay? That was the
range in this survey that these two academics sought public opinion on. Now, follow me on this. Again, number one is open borders: Let anybody
from anywhere in and pay them whatever to come. I mean, just the
extreme of open-borders immigration.
Number seven was build a wall and
deport all the illegals. Find 'em, round 'em up, and make them leave.
Twenty-five percent of the people polled picked number seven, and
more than 55% picked the top three so-called radical anti-immigration
positions. Here's the important thing. In this survey of thousands of
Americans on public opinion, all of the top three options chosen by the
American people are more quote/unquote "radical" than Trump's proposal. In other words, Trump's proposal is not nearly as sweeping as what a
survey of the American people shows they want.
So the point is Trump is not seen as a radical at all in this by
average, ordinary Americans. He's not seen as an extremist. He's not
seen as a fringe kook...as expressed
by 55% of the American people....
The American people are even more adamant about this than is Trump's
proposal, and the American people are the ones being affected by it. You know what's always amazed me about this, folks? Not just that
California is a harbinger of what open borders makes happen, and not
just to the Republican Party. I mean, California is one of the biggest
welfare state states going now. It's in debt; it's a mess. Millennials
care about equality; it's got the biggest line of demarcation between
rich and poor, haves and have-nots of any state in the country....
It's clear that a single issue,
maybe a couple small ones in addition, a single issue may be responsible
for this Trump phenomenon. And nobody wants to get in on it? Nobody
wants to compete with him.
Nobody wants to try to steal it. Until now. The me-toos are beginning. "Hey, my proposal is just like Trump's." You watch.
In fact, right here in The Daily Caller, headline: Scott Walker, "My
Immigration Plan's 'Very Similar' to Donald Trump's." Scott Walker
today "responded to Donald Trump's newly-released immigration position
paper by saying the plan he is offering is 'very similar.' Asked on Fox
and Friends if he gives Trump's plan a thumbs up, Walker said: 'I
haven't looked at all the details of his, but the things I've heard are
very similar to the things I mentioned.'"
The me-toos. The me-toos are now starting. Rather than people
trying to steal it, people are gonna want to get in on it. It has the
potential here to be a genuine movement, so transformative that the
inside-the-Beltway people, even while studying it and looking straight
at it, still stand a chance of being blindsided by it. That is how far
off the beaten path on this issue they are. And then of course there
are side effects to all this....
And now we've got various entities writing pieces on who is a
real conservative and who isn't, what real conservatism is and what
phony conservatism is, and who the real conservatives are and who the
phony conservatives are. It's a crackup, is what's happening.
And what it's exposing in the opinion of many people is that the
inside Beltway version of conservative media is almost identical to the
inside Beltway version of Republican Party, i.e., fear of the left and
saying and doing things in order to get the approval of leftist
intellectuals and critics and so forth.
RUSH: Look at all of the arrows that are being thrown at Trump. We've always known this. There has been a fear throughout the
Republican Party. I don't mean just the presidential candidates here. There has been a fear of the media, what the media is gonna say. "Don't
criticize Obama! They're gonna call you a racist. Don't object to
anything Obama's doing!"...
You know, I still have people asking me, "This Iran deal, is there
anything to be done to Obama?" No, there's nothing that can be done. The Republican Party gave him his free ride; they said there's no
impeachment; they took it off the table. There's no enforcement
mechanism for anything Obama does that's extra-constitutional, in
violation of the law or what have you. He's got his free ride here.
the reason he's got it is because people are scared to death of being
called racist or sexist or whatever."...
[Ed. note: The main reason the GOP E doesn't stop Obama is because they like what he's doing. Rush probably knows this but blaming 'fear' is kinder to the GOP E, and he does have to throw them some kind of a bone.]
(continuing): "Okay, within that, here comes
Trump. It may well be that a whole bunch of Republicans agree with
just haven't had the courage to do it, but Trump did....
What is Trump doing? With every insult
that comes his way, with every bit of criticism, he doubles down and
fires right back
at the critics. This is, in one small part, exactly
what Republican voters have been seeking, wanting to see. They've been
thirsting for it. They don't understand why...When one party is trying
to fundamentally transform this country and make it into something it
is not founded to be, why is there no opposition to it?
They voted in mass numbers, landslide victories in 2010, 2014. They
can't even get any criticism of the Democrats, much less any opposition
policy! And Trump comes along and they're firing more than arrows at
Trump. They're insulting him. It's predictable. everything that they
can throw including the kitchen sink. But again the lesson is what
Trump is doing with it. I told you from the... Look, I hate to do "See,
I Told You So" kind of stuff.
But I remember the first week this all happened when he stepped in it
on the first original Mexico insults: Rapists, muggers, purse snatchers
are who the Mexicans are sending. And then the insult of John McCain.
(paraphrased) "I prefer prisoners that don't get caught, or servicemen
that don't get caught." And the conventional wisdom, "That's it! He
stepped in it, now. He can't survive that," and Trump doubled down on
I said the American people haven't seen anything like this. It's a
teachable moment here. Standing up for what you believe after you say it
and doubling down on it is rewarding. All of this so-called political
correctness has been a myth. Oh, it's there. But the fact that the
American people on a majority basis buy into it has been a myth. So
that's why the me-toos are now going to start springing up.
It's a validation of what common sense has always thought. Fight
back against some of this stuff!
You'll be rewarded. And not just for
the sake of the fight. That's not what this is all about. The
inside-the-Beltway people are even mischaracterizing this. The purpose
of the fight is what it represents, the standing up for principles, the
standing up for the American way of life, the standing up for the very
way the country is founded.
that does that is gonna be rewarded in this particular climate. They're not gonna ask, "Is the guy a conservative?" or whatever....They'll deal with that later. This is not a purity
beauty pageant. Besides, what good has rock-ribbed conservatism done?
I mean, the inside-the-Beltway intellectual conservatives are off
having dinner with Obama and talking about the crease in his slacks and
talking about how smart he is. What the hell good is conservatism, if
that's what it means?
What good is conservatism if what it means is shutting up, and being
thought of as a mannered, cultured, polite person who just steers away
from skirmishes? What good is conservatism if it doesn't stand up for
what it believes in? Yeah, it's an intellectual pursuit, but in terms
of really understanding it, it's not something for only the intellectual
eggheads on our side to be able to comprehend, define, and implement.
Believe me, this is a question a lot of people have been asking: What
good is conservatism if what it does is seek to compliment Obama's
intellect and his speech making ability and his whatever else? What do
we gain by doing that? "Well, uh, Mr. Limbaugh, what you must
understand is the Republican Party brand has been terribly damaged
partly because we're seen as barbarians, constantly attacking!
"We must show that we can govern and work together and compromise.
See if we can't do this, we don't have a chance of attracting the
independents and so forth." Yeah, you're sitting there and you're dying with this attitude, because you're not gonna gain anything. You think
you're gonna siphon Democrat votes, independent votes by shutting up?"
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8/17/15, "Trump Sparks War Within Conservatism," Rush Limbaugh transcript
"RUSH: You see, the title of this? "They Don't Give a Damn About
Governing." Where does this come from? What does "governing" now mean,
being led by liberals?...What does that mean, can't
govern?... I'll tell you what it means. Conservatives don't care about governing means they're not willing to sit on thier hands and let liberals have their way."...
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