Thursday, June 7, 2018

'Russians for Hillary' populated the famous Trump Tower meeting in June 2016-Diana West

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Russian” Kaveladze at Trump Tower meeting was fervent Hillary supporter: “First of all, I voted for Hillary and my family voted for Hillary.”....Senate Judiciary Committee transcripts of interviews relating to Trump Tower meeting..."All four of the “Russians” in the infamous meeting at Trump Tower...were against the election of Donald Trump."  

May 30, 2018, Russians for Hillary, Diana West

“Whether there is anyone who still believes this meeting was anything but a set-up from the get-go, it’s notable that these interviews show us there was not one Trump supporter among the Russians there to “help” Trump. You might even call this weird posse, “Russians for Hillary.”

Take Irakly “Ike” Kaveladze. He moved to the US in 1991 and became a US citizen in 2001, still retaining his Russian Federation passport. He is so pro-Hillary that until he learned that the meeting with Don Jr. would not feature information incriminating to Hillary, he didn’t even want to go.

Kaveladze: Look, I didn’t want to be a part of a meeting where some negative information on a Presidential candidate would be discussed. So, honestly, I was considering if I realized during the lunch that the meeting would be about negative information on Ms. Clinton, I’m not going to go to that meeting.

Q. Why not?

Kaveladze: Because I don’t want to be a part of a — first of all, I voted for Hillary and my family voted for Hillary, and so I didn’t want a part of this.

So touching.

Then there’s translator Anatoli Samochornov, who also moved to the US in 1991 and became a citizen in 2002. He retains his Russian Federation passport, too. Huffington Post writes:

A registered Democrat, Samochornov works with clients on all sides of American and international politics.

In his Senate interview, when asked to list the VIPs he has translated for, Somochornov listed only big Democrats: Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Kerry, Joe Biden. 

HuffPo:

“But his own views appear to be progressive. On Facebook, he has shared clips from MSNBC host Rachel Maddow’s show, labeled former Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney and Bush-era adviser Karl Rove as losers, and posted in favor of expanded health care coverage and more restricted access to guns.”

Sounds like another Hillary voter at the Trump Tower table.

Next is Rinat Akhmetshin, who came to the USA in 1994. He became an American citizen in 2009, also retaining his Russian Federation passport.

(Note to President Trump: Enough with the “dual” citizenship program.)

As Chuck Ross reported, Akhmetshin has met Hillary Clinton and knows people who worked on her campaign. More than that, he is very closely connected to the Clinton machine through his longtime business partner, mentor, advisor, Washington lawyer Edward Lieberman, whose late wife Evelyn served as deputy chief of staff to President Clinton and also as a top adviser to Hillary Clinton in 2008. (Evelyn Lieberman died in 2015.) As a lawyer, Edward Lieberman has had extensive business dealings in Russia and Democrat ties of his own, having worked, for example, as counsel for The Albright Group, founded in 2003 by former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. 

Here’s Akhmetshin’s take on the Trumps.

Q. Was it a significant event to you to meet Donald Trump, Jr.?

Akhmetshin: No, I was amused, and I’m not a fan of the whole family, so — I was kind of curious and amused mostly.

On the day of the meeting, it seems that Akhmetshin and Lieberman rode up together from Washington to New York on the morning Acela. They were going to attend a play that evening, Akhmetshin explained, in which a Russian relative of Akhmetshin’s was appearing.

But first, the day.

When asked if he knew of Veselnitskaya’s trip to New York before she arrived, Akhmetshin gets noticeably dodgy:

I do not remember specifically whether I was specifically aware of her presence in New York at that day, but now in retrospect, I think I had some general kind of understanding she might be in New York …

Akhmetshin, however, was just minding his own business, shopping, “holding a shirt, so I had to manage the phone and the shirt,” when Veselnitskaya called him up and invited him to lunch. (Lieberman was off attending to some personal business in blissful ignorance.) At lunch, Veselnitskay invited Akhmetshin along to Trump Tower to the meeting with “Trump’s son.” All very spontaneous.

That evening, Lieberman, Akhmetshin, also Veselnitskaya and Somochornov, go to the “beautiful” play, starring Akhmetshin’s relative.

How much more film-noirish can this get?

Q. You mentioned that you had dinner beforehand with Mr . Lieberman. Did the subject of the meeting ever come up?

A. I didn’t mention to him.

Which is not answering the question.

At another point in the interview.

Q. I’m sorry. I’m not sure if I understood you . Did you say that Ed Lieberman was a close confidant of Hillary Clinton?

Translation — my head is exploding, what did you just say????

A. His wife was close confidante of Hillary Clinton. 

Q. And do you know if Ed Lieberman had a relationship with Hillary Clinton or just his wife?

A. Oh, he knew her well, I’m sure.

Q. And did you know that before June 9th that he was a confidant of Hillary Clinton, or his wife?

A. Yeah, I knew all the time. I mean, from the first time I met him (1998).

Q. And so knowing that, it never occurred to you to say, “Hey, I just had a meeting where Hillary Clinton’s name came up “?

A. Again, I try to be discreet.

Not to be cute, but this still isn’t answering whether Akhmetshin and Lieberman discussed the meeting, regardless of how the subject came up.

Q. You also said that you met somebody for drinks beforehand. Who was that?

A. I don’t even remember now .

Q. Was it a friend of yours?

A. A friend of mine, yeah .

Q. So you have no idea who it was?

A. I don ‘t remember. I don ‘t even remember whether — honestly, it’ s been such a long time ago. It’s not uncommon for me to meet people or …

Naturally.

As for La Veselnitskaya, this seems to be the closest we get to politics in her written statement.

Q: Did anyone discuss “hacked” emails belonging to the Democratic National Committee, Hillary Clinton, John Podesta or the Clinton campaign? If so, please explain.

A: No, no one did. I was not even aware of this then, since I was at that time not very interested in politics and what was happening with the pre-election campaigns in the United States. I didn’t care who would win.

The day after Inauguration Day 2017, Veselnitskaya seemed to care very much. Here is the poisonously anti-Trump “Putin’s puppet” meme that she posted on her Facebook page, since removed.


To be cont’d.”
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May 31, 2018, Russians for Hillary 2,” Diana West

"Three of the four (Veselnitskaya, Akhmetshin, Somochornov), have been involved in a larger, complex enterprise in Putin’s interest, according to the conventional wisdom: to lobby against Russian sanctions (the Magitsky Act). I emphasize Putin’s interest to highlight the apparent contradiction.
 
“Helping” (colluding with) Trump, according to the party line that was set by our completely discredited “Intelligence Community,” is supposed to help Putin. But these Russian characters all seem to be Hillary lefties, Dems, and even a “progressive.”"...



“Part 1 is here.

Yesterday, drawing mainly on interviews with the Senate Judiciary Committee, I set forth the direct statements and strong indicators that all four of the “Russians” in the infamous meeting at Trump Tower set up to assist in the election of Donald Trump were against the election of Donald Trump. 

Thus a key vector of so-called “Russian collusion” was actually activated by a bunch of Russians for Hillary.  

I put “Russians” in quotation marks above because three of the four have American and Russian citizenship both. One is even the longtime business partner of an American lawyer, Edward Lieberman, whose close associations with Bill and Hillary Clinton go back at least as far as when his late wife Evelyn was deputy chief of staff for President Bill Clinton.

In his Senate interview, Rob Goldstone, the Brit who coordinated the meeting via email with Don Jr., by the way, also revealed something of interest in his along these same political lines.

The bizarre series of relationships that led to this 20-minute meeting at Trump Tower on June 9, 2016 center on Goldstone’s capacity as the rep of a Russian pop star, Emin Agalerov, whose “Russian oligarch” father Agar Agalerov had partnered with the Trump organization to stage the 2013 Miss Universe pageant in Moscow. Approaching Don Jr., Goldstone dangled information from the Russian “Crown prosecutor” via Agar Agalerov via Emin Agalerov that was described as incriminating to Hillary.

Didn’t they get rid of the “Crown” about 100 years ago? Anyway, in his interview with the Senate, Goldstone makes it clear that his client was no Trump partisan, either — despite this (unfulfilled) proffer of political assistance.

Having written to Don Jr.“This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump – helped along by Aras and Emin” — Goldstone drew a line of questioning from Senate staff. In response, Goldstone tried to walk the “government” part back, saying he should have instead said “Russian support,” not “Russia and its government support.” “It’s sort of a bad clause,” he concludes, lamely.

Personally, I would like to have seen a follow-up question regarding whether anyone helped Goldstone write the email and suggested such language, but the interviewer was interested in what Goldstone meant by suggesting Agalerov help.

Q. And other than arranging the June 9th meeting, what form of help did this take?

A. Emin had posted on his social media: My friend Mr. Trump, vote Mr. Trump, he’s done well. He has won in wherever he won.

I may also add that we’re very nonpartisan. A few months before that, we had an idea that Emin had a song called, “Woman,” and we put it to images of Hillary, and I had thought it would be a great thing to suggest to the Clinton campaign, because it was a great song that summed it up. And Emin posted that on his social media as well.  

A few months before … the line of attack was set? Before the “Russian collusion” trap was sprung?

What we know is that four “Russians” and their British faciliator walked into the inner sanctum of the Trump organization under false pretenses. None of them were on the MAGA team, American body or Russian soul.

On the contrary, there were strong sentiments and even connections among them to Hillary Clinton.

But there’s more. Three of the four (Veselnitskaya, Akhmetshin, Somochornov), have been involved in a larger, complex enterprise in Putin’s interest, according to the conventional wisdom: to lobby against Russian sanctions (the Magitsky Act). I emphasize Putin’s interest to highlight the apparent contradiction.
 
“Helping” (colluding with) Trump, according to the party line that was set by our completely discredited “Intelligence Community,” is supposed to help Putin. But these Russian characters all seem to be Hillary lefties, Dems, and even a “progressive.”

And three of the four (that we know of) have links to Kremlin intelligence. Akhmetshin, identified by the House Intelligence Committee as a “former Soviet intelligence officer,” will zig-zag around the question of the nature of his intelligence ties, seemingly depending on whom he is with. The New York Times notes this version of the story: “He told some journalists that he worked with a military counterintelligence unit, but said he never joined Russian intelligence services — unlike his father, sister and godfather.” Clearly, it’s all in the KGB family.

Kaveladze’s links to the KGB show up to a partnership noted by US authorities circa 2000.”…

[Ed. note: As Diana West notes above in part 1, Kaveladze and his whole family were big Hillary supporters. From Washington Post: Kaveladze was such a big Hillary supporter that  he testified that he considered backing out of the meeting when he got wind that it was intended to hurt the Democrat’s campaign.” May 16, 2018, “Inside the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting: A droning Russian lawyer and hot pink jeans, but no Clinton dirt,” Washington Post,

From the Guardian:

Kaveladze, a 52-year-old executive at a Moscow-based property firm with ties to Trump, was found in 2000 to have created hundreds of shell companies for a $1.4bn scheme that US investigators suspected was used to launder Russian money through American banks.
According to US officials, Kaveladze’s partner in that operation was Boris Goldstein, a Soviet-born banker whose ties to former KGB officers attracted interest from US investigators after he moved to California in the early 1990s.

This may be a silly question, but why do Sovet-born bankers with ties to the KGB get to move to California anytime?

“We have obtained information that indicates that this individual [Goldstein] has had a close relationship with companies associated with members of the former Soviet Union’s intelligence agency,” the US Government Accountability Office (GAO) said of Goldstein in a little-noticed footnote to a report in 2000.

And then there is Veselnitskaya. After months of denying any and all connections to the Russian government, Veselnitskaya last month told NBC News, “I am a lawyer, and I am an informant. Since 2013, I have been actively communicating with the office of the Russian prosecutor general.”

What do you know, this news broke on April 27, 2018 — the very day that the final report by the House Intelligence Committee on Russia and the 2016 election became public.
What a coincidence!

To be cont’d.

May 31, 2018,Russians for Hillary 3

Mueller's bona fides are an embarrassment to all Americans except those in the Beltway.
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Added: Linked by Diana West, Senate Judiciary Committee transcripts of interviews and exhibits related to its “Inquiry into Circumstances Surrounding Trump Tower Meeting.” Washington Post also mentions Kaveladze was a passionate Hillary supporter:

From Washington Post: Kaveladze was such a big Hillary supporter that  he testified that he considered backing out of the meeting when he got wind that it was intended to hurt the Democrat’s campaign.” May 16, 2018, Inside the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting: A droning Russian lawyer and hot pink jeans, but no Clinton dirt,Washington Post,

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Added: As noted above by Diana West, another “Russian” at 2016 Trump Tower meeting, Russian-born Anatoli Samochornov, attending as a translator, is a registered Democrat, has worked for the US government for many years, his wife works for US State Dept., he has shared clips from MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow show on FacebookHuffington Post, 7/14/2017
His own views appear to be progressive.” Samochornov workedfor the Meridian International Center, a public diplomacy nonprofit that partners with the State Department between 2001 and 2016, according to the center.His wife also works for the State Department. More from Huffington Post about Samochornov:

7/14/2017,Also At Trump Jr.-Russia Meeting: An Ex-U.S. Government Worker With Liberal Views, Huffington Post, Jessica Schulberg and Paul Blumenthal 

“Investigators won’t say if they’ve spoken to Anatoli Samochornov, a witness to the event everyone is talking about.” 

“Samochornov has worked as an interpreter on dozens of government assignments, including for the U.S. State Department, Defense Department, Securities and Exchange Commission and Drug Enforcement Administration, and for a G-8 foreign ministers dinner at the United Nations, according to his resume. He helped facilitate exchange programs for the Meridian International Center, a public diplomacy nonprofit that partners with the State Department between 2001 and 2016, according to the center. He has worked periodically with the State Department as a contract interpreter for exchange programs. His wife also works for the State Department.

Samochornov’s résumé had been posted on his own business website. But the site was taken down after HuffPost contacted him with questions about his work with Veselnitskaya….

One of the previously unidentified attendees was Anatoli Samochornov, a Russian-born American translator who previously spent years working for the U.S. government.
 
Samochornov would not confirm that he was in the room, citing nondisclosure agreements. But The New York Times’ Ken Vogel said Friday on MSNBC that Samochornov was at the June 9 meeting in Trump Tower. The interpreter’s mother-in-law also confirmed his attendance at the meeting to The Daily Beast.

Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer who met with the Trump team, had previously told the Times that an interpreter attended the meeting, but refused to name him. Veselnitskaya does not speak English, and Samochornov has worked with her several times over the past year, including around the time of the meeting with Trump Jr.”…

Veselnitskaya told the Wall Street Journal that she approached Russian real estate magnate Aras Agalarov, whom she was representing, to help set up a meeting with the Trump campaign as part of her efforts opposing the Magnitsky Act. She was also looking to spread information about Browder, she said.”…

(continuing): “Samochornov has worked on “high level [United Nations] and private sector meetings for the Secretary of State and other VIPs,” according to his LinkedIn page. He did not respond to a request for comment on whether he holds a security clearance.
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works with clients on all sides of American and international politics. But his own views appear to be progressive. On Facebook, he has shared clips from MSNBC host Rachel Maddow’s show, labeled former Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney and Bush-era adviser Karl Rove as losers, and posted in favor of expanded health care coverage and more restricted access to guns. When PEN, the literary and human rights organization, invited a gaggle of Russian writers critical of Russian President Vladimir Putin to New York, he became “great friends” with them, Gessen said….

“I’m a professional freelance interpreter and I can’t talk about any of my clients,” Samochornov told HuffPost. “I am bound by confidentiality agreements. You have to refer those questions to Mrs. Veselnitskaya.”

Later, in an email, he added, “This is my livelihood and I hope you can be sympathetic to the predicament I find myself in.”” 




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