Tuesday, December 8, 2015

Trump: "We have no choice....We can't live like this." Dec. 7, 2015

12/7/15, "'We have no choice': Donald Trump touts his plan to stop Muslims from entering the US," Business, Insider, Colin Campbell

"Real-estate mogul Donald Trump rallied his supporters on Monday night behind his proposal to bar all Muslims from entering the US for the time being.

The GOP front-runner's plan was fiercely criticized by even his fellow Republicans within hours of its release earlier in the day.

But Trump insisted that it was "common sense."

"We have no choice. We have no choice. We have no choice," Trump said, speaking at a National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day rally in South Carolina.

He went on to tout a June survey of American Muslims that was criticized by The Washington Post as a "very shoddy poll." "...

[Ed. note: A different poll, Pew Poll, Aug. 30, 2011, reports on page 7, "just" 19% of Muslims living in the US (as of 2015 estimated at 583,300 by the most conservative extrapolation of 2011 Pew population data) agree that "suicide bombing/other violence against civilians is justified to defend Islam from its enemies" in some cases. (See chart at end of this post). Pew doesn't state this directly, rather it observes that "fully 81%" think violence is never justified. Pew headlines its chart, "Large Majority Continues to Reject Suicide Bombing." Full article, 8/30/2011,"Muslim Americans: No Signs of Growth in Alienation or Support for Extremism," Pew Research, people-press.org.]

(continuing): "Most recently, a poll from Center for Security Policy released data showing 25% of those polled agreed that violence against Americans — these are people that are here, by the way," Trump said. "By the way, 1% would be unacceptable. One percent is unacceptable. Twenty-five percent of those polled agreed that violence against Americans, here in the United States, is justified as part of the global jihad."

He added: "They want to change your religion. I don't think so. I don't think so. Not going to happen."

Trump said his hard-line proposal was for a "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States" until "our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on."

Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski told The Associated Press that the proposal would apply to "everybody," including Muslim tourists and people seeking immigration visas. Trump issued the plan in the wake of last week's mass shooting in San Bernardino, California, where the suspects allegedly "self-radicalized."

Speaking at his Monday rally, Trump warned that without an aggressive response to terrorism, there would be more incidents like the September 11, 2001, World Trade Center attacks.

"Where the hatred comes from and why, we'll have to determine," Trump said of Muslims. "We have to figure it out. We can't live like this. It's going to get worse and worse. You're going to have more World Trade Centers. It's going to get worse and worse, folks. We can be politically correct and we can be stupid, but it's going to get worse and worse."

He continued: "They have no respect for human life. So we have to do something.""


Added: Additional citation from Pew Poll referenced in my note/comment above: 8/30/2011,"Muslim Americans: No Signs of Growth in Alienation or Support for Extremism," Pew Research, people-press.org.  

On page one, Pew enthuses: "Fully 81% say that suicide bombing and other forms of violence against civilians are never justified." (subhead, "Support for Extremism Remains Negligible.") Pew makes no comment that therefore 19% of US Muslims do approve violence in some cases.

Page 2, subhead, "Number of Muslims in the US," Pew estimated in 2011 that 2.75 million Muslims lived in the US. Using their data, this meant that 522,500 (19%) agreed that "suicide bombing/other violence" are justified in some cases to defend Islam.


From page 2 of 2011 Pew Report, "About 80,000 to 90,000 new Muslim immigrants have been entering the United States annually in recent years."

subhead, "Number of Muslims in the US

"Based on data from the survey, in combination with U.S. Census data, Pew Research Center demographers estimate that there are about 1.8 million Muslim adults and 2.75 million Muslims of all ages (including children under 18) living in the United States in 2011. This represents an increase of roughly 
300,000 adults and 100,000 Muslim children [total of 400,000] since 2007, when Pew Research demographers used similar methods to calculate that there were about 1.5 million Muslim adults (and 2.35 million Muslims of all ages) in the U.S....

The 2011 population estimate also roughly accords with separate projections made last year by the Pew Forum’s “The Future of the Global Muslim Population.” For that report, demographers at the International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis (IIASA) in Austria independently estimated the total U.S. Muslim population at about 2.6 million in 2010. The same report also estimated that about 80,000 to 90,000 new Muslim immigrants have been entering the United States annually in recent years.

How the estimate was made

Prior to Pew Research Center’s 2007 survey, no estimate for the Muslim American population, based on widely accepted social scientific methods, was available. Gauging the number of Muslims living in the United States is difficult because the U.S. Census Bureau, as a matter of policy, does not ask Americans about their religion. Nor do U.S. immigration authorities keep track of the religious affiliation of new immigrants. Both the Census Bureau and immigration authorities do collect statistics, however, on people’s country of birth....

For example, interviewing used to identify Muslim respondents for the Pew Research Center’s 2011 Muslim American survey (which screened more than 43,000 households, including non-Muslims) finds that 87% of people living in the U.S. who were born in Pakistan, Bangladesh or Yemen are Muslim."...  


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