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"House Republicans Are Handing Vulnerable Democrats Obamacare Gift," National Journal
3/14/14, "The GOP Establishment Wants to Run on Fixing -- Not Repealing -- Obamacare," Rush Limbaugh
RUSH: "I guess this is the big deal to me. We have this massive electoral
victory on Tuesday in Florida, Florida 13. And I'll be damned if the
Republican establishment is not doing its best in high gear to tell
everybody, "Hey, don't think that Obamacare was the main factor here."
It is becoming clear to me -- not that it needs to be any more clear
-- that the Republican establishment does not want to run against
Obamacare. Karl Rove has a column today. Karl Rove is on TV this
morning on Fox, but there are others in the Republican establishment
saying, "Hey, hey!
You know, it wasn't just about Obamacare," and I've
heard other members in the Republican establishment say that David Jolly
did not say repeal.
These are Republicans saying this.
In David Jolly's campaign, he didn't say "repeal" Obamacare. He said
"fix" it. But the Republicans are taking this thing to, "No, no, no,
no! He said to fix it." [Rush later says he's unable to find any instances of Jolly advocating "fixing" it. ed.] The Republican establishment obviously has a
campaign game plan involving Obamacare, and it does not include
repealing it, folks. The Republican establishment apparently doesn't
want to campaign on repealing it. They want to campaign on fixing it.
And why? Because I showed you the other day (and this is
questionable), there are some polls that you can find that say a
majority of Americans don't want it repealed. They want it fixed. Some
people question the veracity of the polls. There's a National Journal
article today that basically confirms a point that I have been making,
and that is offering to help Democrats fix Obamacare is not gonna help
you; it's gonna help the Democrats.
If you come along as a Republican and offer "fixes" for this, that's
not going to help you as the Republican. It's gonna help the
Democrats.... So I
gotta share that with you and analyze that as the program unfolds. But
it's quite fascinating to watch. I mean, where the Republican
establishment is, is no mystery to any of us.
But the speed with which they have gotten into gear to try to
rearrange the thinking, if you will, after an electoral victory on
Tuesday, is amazing. Here you have a guy who won with his position on
Obamacare -- there's no question it was an anti-Obamacare vote -- and
the Republican establishment does not want us to see it that way. It
was also a vote against Alex Sink. This woman tried everything.
She tried amnesty; that didn't work.
She tried to peg this guy (David Jolly) as a "global warming denier;" that didn't
work. None of the Democrat focal points of their campaign worked, and
yet here comes the Republican establishment, "You make a mistake if you
think that election was about Obamacare." They don't want to get rid of
it. I am convinced they do not want to get rid of it. They want
something they can "fix," quote/unquote.
Now, their fixes might sound free market, conservatively oriented,
this kind of thing. But the Republican establishment does not want to be
identified in any way with any thought of getting rid of Obamacare.
That's the take-away. They just don't. Now, we also will assume that
the Republican establishment wants to win elections. Some people are
not convinced of that.
Like some think the Senate leaders do not want to win, that they're
happier in the minority. There's no challenge there, no real
responsibility. They can't be held accountable for anything. As a loser,
you don't have to put forth an agenda, don't have to try to get it
passed. They can just sit there in the minority and basically try to
stop whatever they can, but that's about it -- and it's easier.
Leading is tough. There are some who think that there are
Republicans that really don't want to win 'cause it's harder. But the
Republican establishment, they do want those committee chairmanships. They do want to be in charge of the money, and they don't want
government getting any smaller.
That's what I think the whole hook with Obamacare is about. We got a
few sound bites about this....You might have
heard it from Karl Rove or you might have heard somebody else, 'cause
it's not just Rove. There are a bunch of others warning you not to think
that that election was about Obamacare.
How many millions of you hit the roof? How many millions of you
cursed out loud at the TV? How many of you know full well the
vulnerabilities of the Democrats and how many of you know full well a
majority of Americans don't want Obamacare and never have? Obamacare
has never had majority support, certainly not in the days since it
passed.
Here is what's crazy about this. In this campaign in Florida,
Alex Sink, the Democrat, ran on "fixing" Obamacare. She couldn't run
in favor of it. Nobody in the Democrat Party is. But she ran on the
notion Obamacare just needs to be "fixed" because that's what the
polling data says a majority of the American people want.
David Jolly did not campaign on fixing Obamacare, as the
establishment is saying. I've got it right here in none other than the
Washington Post. "Jolly's win in a Gulf Coast district just west of
Tampa illustrated the political toxicity of the law known as Obamacare.
Jolly favored repealing and replacing the law, which was a central focus
of the campaign, while his Democratic opponent did not."
Let's go to the audio sound bites. We got one sound bite on this,
and it's from The Five last night on Fox. It's Bob Beckel and Dana
Perino, who probably, you'd have to say, she's the establishment
representative in this sound bite.
BECKEL [democrat]: ... to stick on just Obamacare, just Obamacare. Because you
do that and you're not gonna get the kind of win you should have. One
of the things we've learned now is more polling data coming in from the
Florida race is that very few people determined in exit polls that they
voted because of Obamacare -- ...
PERINO: But, Bob, that's why, um, Jolly didn't actually run on just
Obamacare. Actually the Republicans have seen the same polling and they
agree.
RUSH: So it's fascinating, folks. It literally is. Here you've got
the Democrats who are on the verge of a massive...wave loss
that they are perfectly aware of. And, of course, the Democrats --
knowing how malleable the Republicans are -- are warning, "You guys, you
better not run just on Obamacare! If that's all you do, why, you're not
gonna have the kind of victory you should have,"
as though they're
interested in us winning.
You listen to Bob Beckel [democrat], and he's actually trying to help us...he's trying to advise us on the kind of campaign to run so that we win
the right way, and what is he saying? "You better not focus on
Obamacare!" Well, of course he's gonna say that. Obamacare is an
albatross. Obamacare is a cement swimsuit for these guys. So here
comes the Republican establishment represented by Dana Perino saying
(paraphrased), "Bob, I think that's right, yes.
"Republicans have seen that same poll and, yes, we shouldn't run just
on Obamacare." Who said anybody was gonna run "just on Obamacare,"
anyway? But the fact is that both parties are cautioning Republican
candidates, "You better not focus on repealing Obamacare! You better
focus on fixing it, and you better focus on something besides Obamacare.
You can't just win by talking about Obamacare." Both parties are
telling Republican candidates this.
It happens that it flies in the face of some of the most obvious
logic that has ever been in politics. Obamacare is one of the biggest
negatives any politician has ever been saddled with. Obamacare is one
of the biggest negatives any political party has ever been saddled
with. It is an absolute, utter, total failure and disaster. There
isn't anybody recommending it. The Democrats can't even put together,
with any credibility, a fake video of happy citizens touting the
benefits of Obamacare.
They know it wouldn't be credible. That's how bad it is....
In the middle of all this, we are being cautioned and
warned, "Do not think you can win by simply opposing Obamacare!"
Immediately after this guy did just that, they come out and tell us,
"Don't think you can do it."
It's really odd, folks.
Now, here is this story, this is the National Journal,
and it's from today. "House Republicans Are Handing Vulnerable
Democrats Obamacare Gifts." This dovetails exactly with the point that I
was making in the previous half hour. For some reason the Republican
establishment is hell-bent on convincing Republicans that Obamacare and
repealing it did not have anything to do with David Jolly's win...Even during the campaign, the Republican leadership, the
establishment, was criticizing David Jolly.
There's a Politico story from March the 7th,
a week ago, and that obviously is not even a full week before the
election. "National GOP Turns on Florida Candidate." What is this? On
March the 7th the GOP, according to The Politico, turns on David
Jolly? And here's from the article. "Their frustration had been
mounting for weeks. But by late January national Republicans had had it
with David Jolly, their candidate in Tuesday’s nationally watched
Florida congressional special election.
"Over the past week, a half-dozen Washington Republicans have
described Jolly’s campaign against Democrat Alex Sink as a Keystone Cops
operation, marked by inept fundraising, top advisers stationed hundreds
of miles away from the district in the state capital and the poor
optics of a just-divorced, 41-year-old candidate accompanied on the
campaign trail by a girlfriend 14 years his junior. The sources would
speak only on condition of anonymity."
So the Republican establishment was complaining to the Politico that
this guy couldn't win, he was making all kinds of mistakes, and they
didn't like what he was saying about Obamacare, and he ends up winning!
So after he wins the establishment is back, and they're warning other
Republicans, "You better not think you can win," and then they're
mischaracterizing the guy's campaign. The guy did not campaign on
fixing it, as was said today. He campaigned on repeal and replace. It
was the Democrat Alex Sink who ran on fixing it, and she lost.
Now, Beckel's point is that, hey, if Obamacare were that big a deal,
this guy'd a won in a landslide. If you people are right, the people
hate Obamacare, then Jolly would have one in a landslide, not by three
points. There was a third-party candidate in this race, and the
third-party candidate did not take any votes away from the Democrats. The third-party candidate, a Libertarian, took votes away from the
Republican. If you take this guy out of the race, he did win in a
landslide. The Democrat lost by a landslide, let's put it that way. Alex Sink lost in a landslide....
Jolly did not campaign on fixing it, as was said
today; he campaigned on repealing it and replacing it.
"Another week in
Congress, another vote to change or stop Obamacare." This is National Journal. "While these Republican-backed measures -- now up to
more than 50 -- are opportunities for Republicans to keep up their
drumbeat against a law they believe has detrimental effects, they also
have another curious outcome: They can help vulnerable Democrats facing
tough reelection battles."
You read that right. The Republicans have an opportunity, quote,
unquote. If they're not careful, they're going to help Democrats. "Take
Rep. Joe Garcia, a Democrat representing a swing district in Florida.
He is against a full repeal of Obamacare. But the wave of House votes in
recent months from Republicans to alter the health care law, such as
delaying the tax penalty for not purchasing insurance, have given Garcia
the opportunity to provide a more nuanced voting record when it comes
to the Affordable Care Act than simply supporting it."
The bottom line is this. When the Republicans campaign on fixing
Obamacare, they're opening the door for Democrats not to be hurt by it.
It is exactly what I feared and what I predicted earlier this week. When this race came in, the results came in, and it was clear that Jolly
swept to victory on the basis of opposing Obamacare, I warned you and
Mr. Snerdley, who didn't believe me at first. I said, "You're gonna have
to keep a sharp eye because the Democrats are also gonna learn
something from this. They're gonna learn that they might be able to
stave off a loss by also running against Obamacare." And some people
said, "Well, how they gonna do that, throw Obama under the bus?" No. No. They don't have to throw Obama under the bus at all.
All they have to do is say, "This is not what I voted for. This
law's been changed 30 times since the one I voted for." Any Senate
Democrat running for reelection can say, "This is not what I voted for.
I didn't vote for this. I didn't vote for the HealthCare.gov website
the way it's working. This isn't what Obamacare was." They don't have
to say that Obama's the one changing it. They just have to point out,
"Hey, don't hold that vote against me because this is not what I voted
for. This law's been changed so many times that it's not like what I
signed."
Now, you might think that would never work. If the Republicans come
along at the same time and say, "We don't want to get rid of it. All we
want to do is fix it," they are just falling into the Democrat trap.
They are validating an incumbent Democrat's reelection campaign using
Obamacare by joining the Democrat in saying, "Oh, yeah, we think we can
fix it." Sorry. I'm sorry, Karl, I'm sorry the rest of you
establishment types, but the only way Obamacare is an electoral
advantage for the Republicans is if they run against it, not if their
primary objective in Obamacare is to fix it....
H.R., did I make myself clear in that?
'Cause this is very important. What we're talking about here is the
Republicans inadvertently reviving Democrat reelection hopes when in
fact these Democrats ought to be sitting ducks because of their support
for this law.
Let me grab a phone call... I got a couple of Karl
Rove sound bites I was gonna play, but let me first go to Bill in
Clearwater, Florida. Hello, sir, and welcome to Open Line Friday...
CALLER: How you doing, Rush? I appreciate what you do.
RUSH: Thank you very much, sir. I appreciate that.
CALLER: I've lived in District 13 for 30 years.
Obama carried this district twice.
RUSH: Right.
CALLER: Jolly campaigned on smaller government, lower taxes, and
repeal Obamacare. I believe the largest employer in Pinellas County is
the health care industry....And I believe that fixing Obamacare is a can of worms that we can't win....
RUSH: You are so right. In fact...Koko Jr. just
sent me a section of my website from January 18th,
three years ago, warning conservatives to beware of future claims that
Obamacare can be fixed. Three years ago!...But you are exactly right. Look at
what he said that Jolly ran on: Smaller government, lower taxes. The
Republican establishment... It's just mind-boggling. The Republican
establishment does not want that to be the message.
CALLER: They don't want lower taxes, and they don't want smaller government.
RUSH: They obviously do not. They obviously do not.
CALLER: They want to increase their power.
RUSH: Ah... Well, yeah. I know what you mean. They want government staying where it is, and they want to be in charge of it.
CALLER: Yes....
RUSH: The Republican establishment really
believes it. I've talked to enough of them to know that they really
believe, Bill, that the American people have voted and want a big
government. They think that the call for a smaller government's a loser
'cause the American people want a big government. So their pitch is,
"We can do it smarter, we Republicans. We can do it better...."But they don't believe in small government. They
don't believe in lower taxes, in my mind.
CALLER: One of the problems is, there's not enough difference between the Democrats and the Republicans in Washington.
RUSH: Well, you know, I would have argued with you about that not long ago. Now? I'm not so sure.
BREAK TRANSCRIPT...
RUSH: Koko Jr. sent me this thing from the website from
three years ago, January 18, 2011....It's...an AP story
three years ago about the British prime minister trying to fix the
British National Health System, by privatizing it. "UK Tries Back-Door
Privatization of Health Care."
'Cause it's gotten so bad, it is so unwieldy, it just doesn't work. It's expensive, long lines. So what's happened is, the people that can
afford it have hired their own doctors and built their own hospitals,
and they're opting out. This story is about the British attempt to fix
their massive socialized medicine system by privatizing it. And my
point three years ago is, this is exactly what's gonna become of us.
We're gonna destroy the greatest health care system in the world and
we're gonna make it so bad that somewhere down the line fixing it is
gonna be privatizing it or implementing conservative theory, market
theory into it. It's very close to where we are....
Let me go to the audio sound bites. Karl Rove was on Fox today
with Bill Hemmer. Hemmer kind of hammered Rove, I thought, when I
watched this. Hemmer said, "Look, from the Washington Post yesterday:
What did the Republicans and Democrats learn this week? David Jolly's
win was a big win for the GOP in a district the president carried twice
in 2008, 2012. But, Karl, you are warning that Republicans can't afford
to get overconfident here."
ROVE: Republicans can take a good deal away from this election, but
they better pay attention to the detail. It wasn't just about bashing
Obamacare. Jolly very wisely he understood that that would only get him
so far. It energized the Republicans, but to get the independents and
the swing Democrats, he also emphasized that he was for replacing it. He said, "We need to use private market solutions to resolve these
problems. People ought to be able to buy health insurance across state
lines. We ought to be able to save more tax-free for out-of-pocket
medical expenses. We ought to be able to have insurance that's
portable."
RUSH: Well, as far as it goes, that's right. Jolly did. But he also
said repeal and replace. Nobody, nobody that I know of is talking
about throwing Obamacare and then doing nothing....Free
market solutions is nothing new. We've always had these ideas. It's
just Obama and the Democrats, of course, are not interested in it.
Here's the next continuation of Rove's comment...
ROVE: By making the issue, "Were you in favor of this bad law that
people didn't like or were you in favor of constructive, conservative
changes?" he gained the advantage. The second thing he did is he put it
in a broader frame, which is the president. Did you want to send
somebody to be a check and a balance on the president or did you want
send somebody up there who'd vote for these kind of things routinely?
He made it clear he was gonna go to Washington and make it work. In
order to get Democrats and independents to vote for him, he had to say,
"I'm gonna do what I think is right for the country, and if that means
I'm supporting the president sometimes, fine. If it means that I'm
opposing the president, fine. I'm gonna do what I think is right."
RUSH: Now, I don't know if Jolly ever actually said, "Hey, vote for
me. I have to support Obama sometimes, I will." I know it's a big wet
dream for these Republican establishment types to talk about making
Washington work, and bipartisanship. They just have orgasms over that
whole premise. They also have orgasms, as you know, over getting the
independents, winning the independents and Democrats....
I talked to an
elected Republican last week who may run for president. He said to me,
"Rush, Republicans can't win simply by turning out their base anymore. Democrats can; we can't." I said, "Now, wait a minute. There were four
million Republicans that did not vote in 2012 for Mitt Romney. They
sat home. If they'd have shown up, that's the base. We would have won.
"What do you mean we can't win? What is this idea that it's always
us, and we are the ones that always have to water down what we believe
in order to attract Democrats? By the way, Romney won a majority of the
independents, and he lost the election." So here's the danger, and I'll
repeat this one more time. Because this, to me, is really important.
We've got the Democrats on the ropes. This election in November could
potentially be a massive landslide defeat for them....
It's gonna be a referendum on the Democrats. It's gonna be a
referendum on Obamacare. Now, the Democrats, let's look at the Senate. Senate Democrats, there are some learned commentators who have already
claimed the Senate is lost. Republicans have already won it. No,
that's the wrong way to put it. The Democrats already lost it, 'cause
the Republicans aren't doing anything, really.
They're just gonna sit there and capitalize on the anti-Obamacare
sentiment that's out there, but that sentiment has to survive. We're
only in March here. It's way too early to be sitting back and relying
strictly on this opposition to Obamacare holding up. Who knows? It
probably will. But here's thing. You've got these Senate Democrats who
voted for Obamacare. They're running for reelection. And if the
Republicans aren't careful, they're going to let these Democrats back in
their races.
If the Republicans suggest that fixing Obamacare is what needs to be
done, then they are just rolling out the red carpet for these in-trouble
Democrats to get back in and maybe win, because the Democrats in the
Senate all voted for Obamacare, and that's what's hurting them. But if
the come up and say, "You know what? This isn't what I voted for!
Obamacare's changed so many times, I don't think you can hold me
accountable for what's happened to it.
"This is not what I voted for. What I voted for would have worked,
but this is not what I voted for, and I agree with my Republican
opponent that what we need to do here is fix it"? Well, you have just
let a Democrat destined to lose back in the race....
If they make a big, big
deal out of leaving it intact and fixing it, then, sorry, there's no
reason to get rid of Democrats....
It's such a trap, this whole fix it versus repeal
it. It's such a trap, and I'm talking about winning elections. And then
this idea that we've somehow gotta go out do this? We can't win unless
we get independents and Democrats and that that's what Jolly did, and
how he did it was by talking a little bit like a Democrat? This is very,
very puzzling. It's troubling, upsetting, and it seems like we're
getting ready to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, as they say....
I cannot find any evidence of
David Jolly ever talking about fixing Obamacare. You know why? It
can't be! Obamacare cannot be fixed! It is so bad, they can't even
implement it! I'm sorry to yell. I start yelling when I feel like I
somehow am not getting through, or when what I'm up against is so
ridiculously unsensible that I feel I gotta raise my voice to get
through.
Obamacare cannot be fixed, folks. It is such a disaster, it's
destroying people's lives. I talked about this at the end of the
program yesterday. We had a guy call and he can't afford his premiums,
he's working. The people that, God bless 'em, make up this country,
make this country work. The people who are working, they're the ones
getting the shaft every moment they get up and look around. They're
being blamed. They're being targeted. Meanwhile, a growing number of
people aren't working and somehow they get all the sympathy. They get
the victim status. They get all the benefits.
This thing is so bad, they're having to delay every fundamental
aspect of it, because if they don't it is so bad there might not be a
Democrat Party if it were fully implemented. It's that bad. There is
no fixing it....There's no repair kit. Hell, you
can't even find an honest owner's manual for this piece of malarkey.
But I've looked at Jolly. I can't find any evidence of him ever talking
about fixing Obamacare. In his ads and in his debates, campaign
appearances, he promises to repeal Obamacare, period.
Now, he was on Scarborough today. So he goes on MSNBC, "Oh, yeah,
I'll be willing to work with the president," but then he said "on
reducing the size of government." He said he wasn't gonna compromise
his core beliefs, but of course he said he'd work with the president.
Hell, you gotta say that, I guess. He talked about smaller government.
He talked about tax cuts. This woman [Alex Sink] was for amnesty. This woman tried
to tag him as a global warming denier. Everything the Democrats threw
at him didn't work, and this idea that he won because he wasn't strident
and didn't want to totally repeal Obamacare?
You know, it really is problematic the way the Republican
establishment is trying to mischaracterize this victory and why it
happened. It's like there is no Republican Party. This is a slam dunk
here, what happened. The Democrats are worried sick about it."...
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