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10/14/20, “‘I found Hunter’s emails – and I feared I would be MURDERED’: [A 2016] Trump voter reveals he is the Mac repairer with Biden’s secrets – but CAN’T say if he went to FBI or they came to him and won’t say how he gave a copy to Rudy Giuliani,” Daily Mail, by Nikki Schwab, Senior US Political Reporter for DailyMail.com and Martin Gould for DailyMail.com and Geoff Earle, Deputy US Political Editor for DailyMail.com and Sophie Tanno for MailOnline
*Independent Mac shop owner John Paul MacIsaac, 44, of Wilmington, Delaware, says he is person who turned over Hunter Biden’s emails to the FBI and Giuliani
*He says he did not initially realize who his customer was but as he entered his name grasped that he was ‘famous’
*Biden left three damaged laptops with MacIsaac in April 2019 but never came back for them
*MacIsaac says ‘personal information’ was on ‘messy’ computer
*Claims he became more fearful as summer 2019 drew on and Hunter’s name appeared in the news
*He offered two different accounts of whether he contacted the FBI or agents came to him – but handed over the laptop in December 2019
*He kept a copy because he feared he would be killed by people who ‘work for [Joe] Biden’ and having it was ‘protection’
*MacIsaac refused to comment on how he came to be in touch with Rudy Giuliani or when after Trump’s personal lawyer reveals the contents of laptop
John Paul MacIsaac confirmed that he had handed the laptop to the FBI late last year [2019], claiming to the Daily Beast [in a Wednesday, October 14, 2020 interview] that he was ‘just a guy who had something he wanted [taken] out of this shop,‘ after realizing he had the Democratic candidate’s sons pictures and emails.
The younger Biden left three damaged Apple laptops at MacIsaac’s shop in Wilmington, DE, in April 2019 but never returned or paid the $85 bill for recovering the data from them.
On Wednesday their contents began to be revealed by the New York Post after being given to the newspaper by Rudy Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer.
The emails appeared to show that Hunter Biden introduced his father to his business partner in Ukraine – but that was denied rapidly by the Biden campaign, who said that no such meeting was found in his schedules from 2015, when the email suggested it happened.
But MacIsaac created new confusion and questions over how the laptop’s content ended up with the FBI and with Giuliani.
On a tape recording of his lengthy interview with the Daily Beast’s reporter, he equivocated over how he and the FBI came to be in touch in fall 2019.
He said first that he had got in touch with the FBI but also said: ‘They approached me.’
Asked repeatedly for clarity, he said ‘no comment,’ and said that he had asked a trusted friend who was ‘better at this press and spy stuff’ for advice.
‘I was afraid, I reached out to some people that I trusted, that could possibly get me in touch with the FBI,’ he said. ‘Then they showed up.’
The people were not political, he said, but declined to comment on how he came to know them.
Before the FBI came he made a copy to ‘protect myself,’ he said, but said he was not aware that there were any other copies.
And he repeatedly declined to comment on how he came to be in touch with Giuliani, whose own personal lawyer Robert Costello says he obtained the laptop’s contents from MacIsaac.
‘I don’t feel comfortable clearing anything up right now,’ he said.
But MacIsaac, a former lead ‘genius’ at a nearby Apple Store who is single, did tell how he came to have the laptop.
He said that he has an unnamed ‘medical condition’ which meant he did not recognize Hunter when he came into his store in April 2019, but that when he asked for his customer’s name he thought ‘that sounds familiar.’
‘I got him checked into the system. First name, Hunter. Last name, there was a long pause – Biden. Oh,’ he said. ‘I have had a handful of famous people come in here that I don’t recognize. Sabrina – the older sister on Cosby – Le Beauf, she comes in here sometimes.’
The MacBook Pro also had a Beau Biden sticker on it, he said. His account varied slightly from that reported by the New York Post, which said he could not ‘positively identify’ Hunter Biden.
The laptop had suffered water damage, and MacIsaac was able to retrieve the data from it and image the contents it on to a separate hard drive.
In the course of doing that, he said that he saw its contents, saying that ‘it was a mess.’
‘I would have been responsible for dragging and dropping the contents on to a hard drive,’ he said. There was ‘personal information,’ he said.
But he said ‘no comment’ when asked whether or how he knew that the emails concerned Hunter’s dealings with Burisma, the Ukrainian energy giant whose board the vice-president’s son joined in 2014.
He said he had tried to contact the younger Biden ‘repeatedly,’ to no avail.
And he said that during the summer he started to be concerned about the hard drive with Hunter’s secrets being in his shop.
‘Middle of summer, I started to get concerned because you see stuff in the papers and the news and online and I thought I recognize that name,’ he said, in reference to Hunter Biden, as questions over his links to Ukraine came to be at the heart of the impeachment saga.
Then he said he reached out to a trusted friend who offered him advice.
But his account then became unclear as he equivocated on how he and the FBI came to be in touch.
Regardless, two agents from the FBI – possibly from its Baltimore office – came to pick up the laptop on December 9, he said, bringing with them a subpoena for it – although that document is dated December 19.
He said that the next day, they phoned him to ask for help getting the laptop to work and he told them which power cord to get.
MacIsaac said that he next heard from them in the New Year [2020].
‘One of the agents called me up three weeks later,’ he said, saying that the agent warned him not to speak to anyone who came asking him for the laptop and instead to ‘stall.’
Asked who that would be, MacIsaac told the Daily Beast the FBI said: ‘Biden, anybody representing Hunter.’
MacIsaac said he had acted to pass on the laptop to Giuliani because he feared being killed because of what was in his possession saying: ‘I’m pretty vocal about not wanting to get murdered.’
‘Did you genuinely think Joe Biden would put your life in danger?’ he was asked.
‘People that work for him, sure,’ he replied.
He referenced the murder of Seth Rich, a Democratic political staffer whose death in Washington D.C. in 2016 remains unsolved but was at the center of [allegedly] debunked conspiracy theories that it was because he played a role in the leaking of Hillary Clinton’s emails. [If his murder remains “unsolved,” please tell us how that notion isn’t also a “conspiracy theory.” Also, who’s in charge of defining what is or isn’t a “conspiracy theory?”]
Rich’s family have repeatedly spoken of the pain the bogus claims have caused and are suing people – including Fox News – who they say spread the [alleged] lies. [Well known and irrelevant. What matters and is a disgrace is that this murder apparently remains unsolved.]
But MacIsaac said of answering questions from reporters: ‘I’d prefer this to getting shot jogging in the morning.’
Asked who he thought would kill him, he said: ‘Epstein didn’t really hang himself, this guy got shot jogging.
MacIsaac said he was ‘not political’ although his social media shows that he voted for Trump in 2016 and posted: ‘So, I decided to go on Facebook today for the first time in a while. Apparently, I am an a**hole, stupid, racist, sexist, and a d**k that hates his country. And that’s just from my friends.
‘Come on people, we are Stronger Together……What, too soon?’
But asked if he was concerned about the possibility of Biden winning the election he said: ”As long as he doesn’t have a vendetta.'”…
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