Tuesday, December 24, 2013

Bloomberg reporter and GOP ‘leadership’ favor GOP being jr. members of Beltway ‘uniparty.’ Majority of right of center in US differ, want 2 party system, don’t want to be jr. dems. or Vichy Republicans

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12/23/13, Boehner’s Christmas Wish: To Roll the Tea Party, Bloomberg Business Week, Joshua Green

“In July, Pew Research conducted a broad study of Republican voters. By and large, their views aligned more closely with right wing groups such as Heritage Action than with party leaders:
  • Some 54 percent wanted the party to become more conservative
  • and only 40 percent, more moderate.
These views endured, even during the shutdown. An October Pew poll showed that a majority of Republicans still held a positive view of the Tea Party.“...(this item near end of article)

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Today's Vichy Republicans favor the "uniparty." Image below, "France in Defeat," 1940:

French man weeps as Germans march into Paris, 6/14/40











12/15/13, Breaking The UniParty,” Angelo M. Codevilla, libertylawsite.org

The Republican Party’s leaders have functioned as junior members of America’s single ruling party, the UniParty. Acting as the proverbial cockboat in the wake of the Democrats’ man-of-war, they have made Democratic priorities their own when the White House and the Congress were in the hands of Republicans as well as in those of Democrats, and when control has been mixed. The UniParty, the party of government, the party of Ins, continues to consist of the same people. The Outs are always the same people too: American conservatives. They don’t have a party.”…

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Comment: Most Republicans and even “the general public” apparently favor a two party system and say GOP ‘leadership’ isn’t paying “too much attention” to conservatives and the TP.

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Pew Poll, Oct. 3-6, 2013:

10/9/13,Tea Party backlash? Not among rank-and-file Republicans, pewresearch.org, Bruce Drake

“Recent news reports have suggested that the hard line taken by Tea Party and other conservative Republicans in the House in the budget and debt ceiling battles may be producing a backlash among party supporters and donors who are concerned about the political impact of the government shutdown and a possible U.S. default on its debt.

But to whatever extent that pushback may be happening, it’s a point of view not shared by rank-and-file Republicans. Just 18% of Republicans believed their leaders were paying too much attention to the Tea Party, up slightly from 13% two years ago, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted last week. Most Republicans said the party’s leaders were either paying the right amount (40%) or too little (24%) attention to the positions of the Tea Party.

Even among Republicans and Republican leaners who do not agree with the Tea Party movement, more than half said either that the GOP was paying the right amount of attention (34%) to the ideas of the Tea Party or too little (21%). Just 22% of non-Tea Party Republicans said the movement receives too much attention from the Republican Party.

Another aspect to the political forces at work is the views of Republicans who most frequently vote in primaries. An analysis of a September Pew Research poll found that among Republicans and Republican-leaning registered voters who say they always vote in primary elections, 53% said they wanted lawmakers to do what they could to make the health care law fail, which has been a goal of the Tea Party bloc in the House. Just 32% said lawmakers should instead try to make the law work as well as they can.

In addition, about four-in-10 of GOP primary voters also say Republicans in Congress have compromised too much with Democrats compared to 22% who say they have not compromised enough.

When it comes to the general public, a minority (35%) of those surveyed said Republican leaders were paying too much attention to the Tea party. Read more.”

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On so-called shutdown, Pew Poll 10/3-10/6 finds majority of both Republicans and Democrats opposed compromise. "54% of Republicans" and "72% of Tea Party Republicans and Republicans leaners" said GOP shouldn't compromise even if it was only way to end 'shutdown:'

10/7/13, Partisans Dug in on Budget, Health Care Impasse,Pew Poll, people-press.org

“There is little support for compromise among members of either party.

The national survey by the Pew Research Center, conducted Oct. 3-6 among 1,000 adults, finds 44% say Republican leaders should give ground on their demand that any budget deal include cuts or delays to the 2010 health care law. Nearly as many (42%) say it is Obama who should give ground, by agreeing to changes in the health care law.

Even when asked if the only way to end the shutdown soon is for their side to give ground on the health care issue, most are unwilling to back down. A majority of Democrats (58%) say it would be unacceptable for Obama to agree to cuts or delays in the Affordable Care Act, even if this is the only way to resolve the shutdown soon. Roughly the same share of Republicans (54%) say it would be unacceptable for GOP leaders to agree to any deal that does not include cuts or delays to Obamacare.

Notably, Tea Party Republicans overwhelmingly oppose Republican leaders making concessions to resolve the impasse. Nearly nine-in-ten Republicans and Republican leaners who agree with the Tea Party (88%) say Obama should agree to cuts or delays in the health care law and 72% think it would be unacceptable for GOP leaders to agree to a deal that does not include those changes, even if it is the only way to quickly end the shutdown. Among non-Tea Party Republicans, 63% say Obama should agree to changes in the health care law, but only 39% feel it would be unacceptable for GOP leaders to drop their demand for health care changes.”...

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Comment:  I fully agree it's important to find common ground with your fellow man. That doesn't mean I'll agree if someone tells me to commit mass murder or the like. The US is supposed to have a 2 party system. Which doesn't offer much variety but it's absolutely preferable to having a one party system. It's the difference between life and death. I often hear elected so-called Republicans saying it's important to give democrats what they want. The second party is supposed to fight for a different set of beliefs. Not to say you'll always win, but the US government was designed to prevent one side from having too much influence. If so-called Republicans don't have a different set of beliefs or don't want to fight for them, why are they taking up space in Washington, DC.? Answer: The GOP establishment likes one party rule, wants to be part of it, and agrees with democrats on main issues anyway. By not openly declaring themselves to be democrats, they keep their jobs, help the radical left, and fool a lot of people. To them everything would be fine if they could be left alone to agree with democrats. This is living hell, a death camp. After France surrendered to Hitler, he let them use part of the country, Vichy, as a sort of pretend government. French people there could mingle and ignore reality, including that Vichy collaborated with Nazis, hence the term Vichy Republican, which originated with Mark Levin who calls them "French Republicans." About Vichy from eyewitnesstohistory.com:

"France in Defeat," 1940

"It took only six weeks for France to capitulate to the German invaders. A stunning defeat - particularly since before the war the French army was considered the most powerful in Europe.
France's vaunted Maginot Line failed to hold back the Nazi onslaught and the German Blitzkrieg poured into France. (see Blizkrieg, 1940) Thousands of civilians fled before it. Traveling south in
cars, wagons, bicycles or simply on foot, the desperate refugees took with them what few possessions they could salvage....

A Frenchman weeps as German
troops march into Paris
June 14, 1940

Paris was abandoned and declared an Open City. The French government joined the fleeing throng and after moving to, and then quickly abandoning one location after another, finally ended up in the city of Vichy. 

The ultimate humiliation came at the signing of the armistice on June 22. The French had maintained as a memorial the railroad car in which the armistice ending World War I had been signed twenty-two years earlier. It occupied a hallowed space within a small forest north of Paris. Hitler insisted that France's capitulation to his Nazi jauggernaught be formally acknowledged in the same railroad car at the same spot.


Under the terms of the armistice, France was divided into two sections: Occupied France under direct German control and Vichy France - a quasi-independent territory with Marshall Petain, an eighty-four-year-old hero of the First World War, as its head.

A reporter for the London Times published his observations on defeated France shortly after its collapse:
 
"A problem for all who think about it is how to explain the amazing mental attitude which seems to prevail today in France. 
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Most Frenchmen seem to regard the total collapse of their country with a resignation that has the appearance of indifference. They are, indeed, dazed by the rapidity of the collapse, but register no violent reaction to so great and unexpected a shock....

Vichy, for a nation which has reached the nadir in its history, gives an excellent picture of a certain French state of mind. Naturally the place is crowded beyond capacity. It is full of well-to-do refugees from occupied France, as well as French officers, immaculately accoutered, and political aspirants. They crowd the cafes, hotels and boulevards. The refugees and officers are enjoying the calm and the mild pleasures to be had there. 

The aspirants are busily fishing in the stirring political pool in the hope of finding an agreeable job. There is adequate food for those who can afford to buy it....Here is little evidence that France has suffered one of the greatest defeats in her history. Outside the boundaries of this temporary capital, food is not so plentiful, yet in a minor degree the same spirit of indifference exists....It is hard to discover any serious attempt to meet the formidable problems which are threatening the Vichy Government."...

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"References: This article was originally published in The Times of London on August 17, 1940, republished in The Times of London, Europe Under the Nazi Scourge (1941); Shirer, William L., The Collapse of the Third Republic: an inquiry into the fall of France in 1940 (1969)." image above from eyewitnesstohistory.com

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French President Francois Mitterand who retired in 1995 had been an official in the Vichy government:

2/17/11, "The Vichy Policy on Jewish Deportation," BBC, Paul Webster

"Klarsfeld's efforts were frustrated by the Socialist president of France at this time, Francois Mitterrand, who had been an official at Vichy and was decorated by Pétain. It was not until 1992 that one of Barbie's French aides, Paul Touvier, who had been a minor figure in wartime France, was jailed for life for his crimes.

French courts, responding to Mitterrand's warnings that trials would cause civil unrest, blocked other prosecutions, including that of the Vichy police chief, René Bousquet, who organised the Paris and Vichy zone mass arrests. He was assassinated by a lone gunman in June 1993.

It was not until Mitterrand retired in 1995 that France began to face up to its responsibility in the persecution of Jews. When the new right-wing president, Jacques Chirac, came to power, he immediately condemned Vichy as a criminal regime and two years later the Catholic Church publicly asked for forgiveness for its failure to protect the Jews."...





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