Thursday, November 21, 2019

US oligarchs invited Ukraine oligarchs to July 2016 Republican Party Platform meetings in Cleveland. Ukraine Amb. Chaly wanted GOP platform to include lethal weapons for Ukraine to kill Russians. Per Gallup Poll, August 2018, Americans don’t hate Russia, want to improve relations

8/20/2018, Gallup Poll: “More in U.S. Favor Diplomacy Over Sanctions for Russia," Jeffrey M. Jones. Poll dates, August 1-12, 2018

“58% say it’s more important to try to improve relations 

36% think U.S. should take strong diplomatic or economic steps 

Those closely following story on Russia and the 2016 election prefer sanctions” 

“Americans believe it is more important to try to continue efforts to improve relations between the countries (58%), rather than taking strong diplomatic and economic steps against Russia (36%).”…

Gallup Poll “Survey Methods: Results for this Gallup poll are based on telephone interviews conducted Aug. 1-12, 2018, with a random sample of 1,024 adults, aged 18 and older, living in all 50 U.S. states and the District of Columbia. For results based on the total sample of national adults, the margin of sampling error is ±4 percentage points at the 95% confidence level. All reported margins of sampling error include computed design effects for weighting. Each sample of national adults includes a minimum quota of 70% cellphone respondents and 30% landline respondents, with additional minimum quotas by time zone within region. Landline and cellular telephone numbers are selected using random-digit-dial methods. View survey methodology, complete question responses and trends.”

Added: Per US oligarch, without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be an empire:” 

“This is a point that the late Zbigniew Brzezinski often made, saying thatwithout Ukraine, Russia ceases to be an empire.May 2019, Carl Gershman, Pres. of NED, speaking in Ukraine

Added: Carl Gershman, US oligarch and president of US regime change group NED, calls for use of US “power” and “will” to remove Russia’s elected President Putin. Gershman is effectively calling for US taxpayer funded violent removal of the elected president of Russia. President Putin has never harmed the US, has never placed tanks along the 2000 mile US southern border, has only responded to endless US aggression by saying he’ll further fortify defenses of existing Russian land. Gershman: 

The United States has the power to contain and defeat this danger [Pres. Putin]. The issue is whether we [US taxpayers] can summon the will to do so.”...10/6/2016, Washington Post, Carl Gershman, opinion….[Why does Gershman confine himself to US taxpayer funded [“we”] assassinations? He’s perfectly free to privately finance violent removal of Putin if he thinks it’s so important.]

Added: IMF $17 billion bailout loan to Ukraine is contingent on Ukraine continuing violent attacks on Russian speaking people in eastern Ukraine: 

5/21/2014, IMF warns Ukraine on bailout if it loses east,

“Ukraine, struggling with a stuttering economy
as well as an escalating crisis with neighboring Russia, has had its $17 billion International Monetary Fund bailout signed off. But international lenders are already warning of threats to its funding.”…


Map showing Russian speaking areas of Ukraine, as of Oct. 2015
Added: As of Oct. 2017, political influence of some Ukraine oligarchs has only increased since 2014 regime change by US oligarchs: 

"Since 2014 [through 10/3/2017] there has not been much change [in Ukraine]. Business people continue to hold leading political roles….After the Euromaidan protests [and US regime change], the political influence of some oligarchs increased even further."…10/3/2017

Ukraine seeks lethal weapons at July 2016 GOP Platform meetings in Cleveland. (Who needs voters and elections?): 

“Ukraine’s ambassador to the United States, Valeriy Chaly, is here [at Republican Party Platform meetings in July 2016 in Cleveland] on a program organized by the State Department."…Ukraine Ambassador sought GOP platform language stating that lethal weapons will be provided to Ukraine. The Ambassador also said that the wider Republican establishment" rather than elected US presidents, decides US foreign policy. 

7/21/2016, Proposed GOP Stance on Ukraine Sparks Controversy," VOA News, by Tatiana Vorozhko, Iuliia Iarmolenko, Cleveland, Ohio
At this week’s [July 2016] Republican National Convention, a mini-drama has surfaced over what the party’s platform has to say about the conflict in Ukraine…. 

Ukraine’s ambassador to the United States, Valeriy Chaly, is here [at Republican Party Platform meetings in Cleveland] on a program organized by the State Department. He said he was less concerned about the rewording of the language on Ukraine than about the way it was done. 

[Alleged] Russian actions against Ukraine and the GOP’s position on the issue dominated a roundtable discussion organized by the International Republican Institute in Cleveland on Tuesday….[IRI Board of Directors][IRI is a division of US taxpayer funded group NED whose longtime chief Carl Gershman has stated his desire that US use its “power” and “will” to remove Russia’s elected President Putin, noted above.]  

The problem [said Ukraine Ambassador Chaly] is that the [Republican Party Platform] document, which included [a] position on providing lethal weapons to Ukraine, was amended by the group in the committee who, I think, didn’t consider the position of the wider Republican establishment,” Chaly told VOA. 

The document, which was submitted by the wider Ukrainian diaspora … was amended by the people of Donald Trump’s campaign manager and not by the people who analyze and formulate foreign policy and defense positions. It makes [it] difficult to predict how strategic documents would be developed if Trump becomes president."........

The language was altered from providing “lethal defensive weapons” to providing “appropriate assistance.” 

“Trump staffers in the room, who are not delegates but are there to oversee the process, intervened,” Washington Post columnist Josh Rogin wrote of the meeting at which the wording was changed. “By working with pro-Trump delegates, they were able to get the issue tabled while they devised a method to roll back the language."… 

The ambassador noted that the document is only an electoral platform plank and not a statement of policy of a possible future Trump administration. He said that conversations at the convention led him to believe that policy toward Ukraine has not yet been formulated. 

“I don’t think that overall foreign policy of the United States would change dramatically regardless of who wins,” Chaly said, [so obviously there’s no need for elections] adding that Indiana Governor Mike Pence, the Republican Party nominee for vice president, has “good credentials” and understands the issue. 

“The main thing for us is that the people who run Donald Trump’s campaign would not run his foreign policy, he said."...


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